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#1 sruments

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Posted 18 November 2013 - 08:55 AM

Hello,

 

I am looking to buy some Seaga machines through Healthy You.  I met with a friends father last night who is in the business to seek some advice. He told me that there is no opportunity in healthy vending and practically begged me to not but any Seaga machines.  I am trying to do my due diligence to see if there really is an opportunity to make money in healthy vending but am concerned about buying machines that are going to cause me headaches down the road. Should I stay away from healthy and Seaga machines ? Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks.



#2 AZVendor

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Posted 18 November 2013 - 09:30 AM

Thank you for seeking more advice on this subject and not blindly falling for a sales pitch or an idea that appeals to you.  Your friend's father is correct and you should heed his advice.  It sounds like he knows what he's talking about. 

 

Healthy vending is a segment of vending that is seeing more traction in the industry, but it is still not what the end user, the person dropping coins into your machines, wants to buy from that machine.  Therefore you will have lower sales than industry standards (which are a bunch of empty numbers anyway).  Requests from accounts for healthy products have come and gone for several decades now.  Prior to the government getting into everyone's business and dictating that healthy products should be in all schools, those location requests would be met to some extent by the vending operator, who always found that the "healthy" products wouldn't sell and eventually they would be pulled in favor of what the people really wanted to buy.

 

Turn to the 21st century and with all of the government blathering about obesity in America (they are correct) many school districts have thrown out the standard profitable vending products in favor of Kale chips and diet soda and waters.  This product lineup, however, won't draw customers to your machine, nor will fancy graphics plastered on the door of the machine, beyond the initial curiosity.  This is not what the school children want to eat, nor what their parents buy for them to eat at home.  This is a case of trying to force guidelines down the throats of an unwanting public, other than the cow-towing school administrators. 

 

There is a healthy eating trend in America today that didn't exist years ago.  More healthy products are available now than ever before.  But to put them in a vending machine at much higher pricing than standard candy and chips to sell to an unwanting public, is a disaster in the making for the vending operator.

 

I will add that generally the machines sold to you for this venture will be from substandard manufacturers, many of them imported.  Seaga, though assembled in the US, is a substandard brand of machine.  Their technical support and written manuals are terrible, with many parts not available for replacement for whatever reason.  Their parts prices are also more than average compared to other US manufacturers. 

 

The fact that you're interested in several of these machines must mean you have been in contact with or been to a biz op seminar where this "opportunity" has been presented to you.  I can say that you will generally not get all that is promised to you by these biz op scammers and you will pay much more than the machine is worth.  If you want to target the healthy side of vending yourself, you can purchase your own good, used snack machines made by AP or National or USI or AMS, put your own healthy graphics on them and go get the healthy vending locations yourself.  You will save most of your money doing it this way and learn more about the business than you ever will handing your money to a salesman.

 

Thank your for looking into this more and not throwing your money away yet.  You should thank your friend's father for his advice and perhaps ask for some guidance in how to get into vending yourself.  I'll bet it will be something along the lines of "start with a couple of can soda accounts, get your feet wet, then decide if you still want to do vending.  It can be hard work and not very profitable, but by growing slowly you can build yourself a business."  Good advice, if you ask me.  Hey, you did!



#3 Vic

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Posted 23 November 2013 - 08:43 AM

Hello, and kudos to AZ Vendor for taking the time to help by sharing his knowledge. Let me follow up on his post. I have a small vending business...44 accounts...that I developed over 10 years. I never bought a new machine and I found all of the locations myself. Over the years I have probably had many more accounts placed but they come and go for various reasons. Lesson 0ne, don't overpay for machines...the change adds up, but not fast enough if you are caught in a company financed scam.

 

Lesson Two I have learned...people don't buy what they ask for. I have been asked over the years for teas, fiber bars, various nuts and twigs combitations (i.e., healthy stuff) and it just goes stale...people always come back to salt and chocolate.

 

Here is a note from personal experience. I have an account in a larger satellite health center to which I provide snacks and drinks with a 10 selection USI drinks machine and a 32 selection USI snack machine. I bought the pair for $1200. Management wanted heathy choices had another vendor bring in a third machine...new and kind of ugly I thought with very loud colors and garrish graphics. It vends 8 drinks, about 19 snacks, and some chilled choices. For a week or two, the machine seemed to be used quite a bit but it was deceiving because the machine has very limited capacity...some rows hold only four selections. Usage went down week by week and I saw items dating out and the vendor started bringing in new "healthy items" like iced danish rolls, Sierra Mist, Three Musketeer bars, etc. For the last two weeks, the machine has been sitting idle with an out of order sign on it while my non-healthy items are being drained and I rarely have problems with my "used" USI machines.

 

Send AZ vendor some roses...he likely saved you a ton of money and frustration...



#4 paveitall

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Posted 02 January 2014 - 04:25 PM

I made mush the same mistake, my first machine was a 1-800 vending (Seaga).  The machine isn't to bad but I can tell you that it isn't built with the same quality as USI or National/Crane and I'm fearful of the problems I will have in the future.  Since my initial purchase of a Seaga machine, I have since only ordered Crane/National, you will find all the same available options but with a much more attractive and well built machine.  I have several Crane Media Combo machines and they are great.



#5 Canteen

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Posted 15 February 2014 - 09:59 PM

We had a pretty good sized account that demanded a 2BU (Healthy) Machine. So we dropped a $5500 refrigerated machine there next to the regular snack machine, filled it with organic/gluten free products and for the last 12 months, its averaged a lousy $28 per week.  The regular snack machine does 150-175 a week.  But with the other 16 machines in other places of the complex doing close to 2K a week, we'll just have to deal with it to keep em happy.

However, we have a few YMCA's that went healthy a couple years ago and the machines still do good, even though they made us pull the ice cream machines which hurt.  In a corporate place or a factory, trying to go healthy is a waste of time.  Usually the people bugging us and making decisions for the entire company they work for, don't even use the machines anyway.  If you specificly gonna do "healthy vending", its a big risk.

Also, those Seaga machines are not worth the $.  We had a couple from a small acquisition, and they cant compare to AP Or National- and AZ's right about getting parts.  I would buy a used machine from craigslist, but not from some guy in his garage hows "not sure" about how it works.