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[solutians]

What can anybody tell me about Genesis machines. I have found a few used units but am a newbie and do not want to start off with a problem machine. Any help will be greatly appreciated

[HooseFoose]

Solutians,

I have 10 Genesis machines (GO-127 / GO-137 combos) (www.genesismanufacturing.com). I have had them for about 4-5 months. I bought them brand new. They have been fair machines. I have had a few parts failures and their warranty division has been very responsive. They have gotten the parts out to me very quickly (usually within 3 days).

These machines can comfortably service about 10 to 50 people. 10 people will be serviced about once a week.

These machines new are about $3500-4100. Used I would expect to see them about $2700-3300ish. If you are considering combo machines, you can get brand new combos from Multi-Max (www.multi-max.com) for about $2,300. Multi-Max can be serviced in about 5-10minutes. Genesis machines take about 30-60 minutes to service.

My machines' capacity is 140 snacks and 145 drinks.

Alternatively, you can get a good used Crane/National industrial strength machine soda machine (about 800 capacity) for about $1500-2000 and a good used Crane/National industrial grade snack machine (about 800) capacity for another $1,500-2000. So you could get 2 good used industrial machines for $4,000. They would easily service 100-200 people.

More important than the machine is the location. Find your location first, before you buy your machine, so you will know what you need.

If you don't mind my asking, what are they asking for the machines? Where are you thinking of putting them?

Hope this helps!

Sincerely,

~HooseFoose~

[solutians]

Solutians,

I have 10 Genesis machines (GO-127 / GO-137 combos) (www.genesismanufacturing.com). I have had them for about 4-5 months. I bought them brand new. They have been fair machines. I have had a few parts failures and their warranty division has been very responsive. They have gotten the parts out to me very quickly (usually within 3 days).

These machines can comfortably service about 10 to 50 people. 10 people will be serviced about once a week.

These machines new are about $3500-4100. Used I would expect to see them about $2700-3300ish. If you are considering combo machines, you can get brand new combos from Multi-Max (www.multi-max.com) for about $2,300. Multi-Max can be serviced in about 5-10minutes. Genesis machines take about 30-60 minutes to service.

My machines' capacity is 140 snacks and 145 drinks.

Alternatively, you can get a good used Crane/National industrial strength machine soda machine (about 800 capacity) for about $1500-2000 and a good used Crane/National industrial grade snack machine (about 800) capacity for another $1,500-2000. So you could get 2 good used industrial machines for $4,000. They would easily service 100-200 people.

More important than the machine is the location. Find your location first, before you buy your machine, so you will know what you need.

If you don't mind my asking, what are they asking for the machines? Where are you thinking of putting them?

Hope this helps!

Sincerely,

~HooseFoose~

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Thanks for the response. Yes this helps quite a bit. The asking price is $2000 each but if they will fit my needs I was going to make an reduced offer. My plans for these machines were some local equipment and auto dealers with 17-28 employees plus their customer traffic. Oh yea, The machines are model G-380 244 snack, 145 drink capacity and were purchased in 2006.
Thanks
Solutians

[HooseFoose]

Solutians,

$2000 is a good price for those larger models. Even better if you can get them cheaper! It sounds like your potential locations would be a good fit too. You will maximize your profits if you are able to get those locations without having to give them a commission. All 10 of my first locations had a 10% comission. I am in the process of moving them all to locations that do not require a commission, so I can keep more money! I have moved half of them so far.

Good Luck!

Sincerely,

~HooseFoose~

[jmva93]

Solutians,

$2000 is a good price for those larger models. Even better if you can get them cheaper! It sounds like your potential locations would be a good fit too. You will maximize your profits if you are able to get those locations without having to give them a commission. All 10 of my first locations had a 10% comission. I am in the process of moving them all to locations that do not require a commission, so I can keep more money! I have moved half of them so far.

Good Luck!

Sincerely,

~HooseFoose~

[jmva93]

I have had those machines for several months. They are pretty good machines. You are right in that the service dept is top notch, always helpful. The only problem I have had with the machines is the bill acceptor. The bill acceptor that came with the machine is manufactured by ICT. It was too sensative, always getting bills caught. This acceptor has a green bar accross the front of the machine. I swapped them out for another ICT model that has three flashing lights accross the front and have had no problems since. Hope it helps. Good luck!

[scottgtt]

I have one that I got new as a buyout of another company. it cost me appx. $300.00 (I got 6 combos for $750.00) and I allocate $300 to the genesis since it was the nicest. That being said, it has been nothing but problems for me. It constantly jams and quite frankly is junk. Crane/National makes much better equipment with standardized validators and mechs. Now if you have a genesis with mars or coinco equipment then I might see this differently, but if you can't get these types of validators and mechs, I would look elsewhere. also, $2000.00 seems very high for used equipment when you can get a full size snack for less than $1500 and a soda machine for $500.00