Please add your thoughts on subject. I talking about locations over 100 employees.
Sincerely,
~HooseFoose~
Posted 05 August 2008 - 11:45 AM
Posted 14 August 2008 - 06:50 PM
Is it worth giving a big location a commission? It always seems like such a huge pain, in addition to losing some of your profits for the site. I am loathe to do it, but Scottgtg was saying on another thread that if you don't give them a commission, then you are much more likely to lose the account. Is it worth it to "secure" the account?
Please add your thoughts on subject. I talking about locations over 100 employees.
Sincerely,
~HooseFoose~
Posted 15 August 2008 - 05:07 AM
Bottom line it's service, not commissions. If you provide great service and keep prices reasonable, commissions are irrelevant. It's all based on building a relationship with the account, and making sure the account is taken care of. That's what keeps your accounts intact. I have found that good accounts care more about great service than anything they might gain from receiving a commission.
I have had so many accounts tell me that they don't want a commission, just reasonable prices and good service for their employees.
Nowadays, I turn down any business that insists on a commission. I just won't do it. It's a pain and time waster, and if you don't provide good service anyway, the commission won't make any difference.
Posted 15 August 2008 - 03:07 PM
Posted 16 August 2008 - 08:00 PM
I'm just starting so I have an opinion but no experience. A larger site where the machine is for employees or a service they need I would shy away from it. I would certainly discuss it with them openly and do it if they want it, but I would offer to donate a few cases of pop for their summer picnic and winter holiday parties as an alternate or keep the prices a little lower than they would otherwise need. If you don't discuss commission with a large site somebody else might.
Small locations will never get a commission from me because they are - well small. Mechanics, etc. need to have something there in their waiting rooms to make their customers comfortable.
A site such as an apartment complex or a building where the manager leases the space to others (common space) I will always offer a commission because they have no incentive to let you use their power otherwise. I will explain it may only be $20 to $30 per month and see if they care.
One question: Those with experience in this what rate do you use? 10% is common, but is that gross sales or net (after product costs) sales? I'm guessing its net, but I would like to see what you have to say.
Posted 17 August 2008 - 12:14 PM
Don't ever be the one to bring up commission in a negotiation. If you bring it up, they will expect it. If you bring it up, you will lose.
If the prospect brings it up, explain the rationale for not paying a commission (keeping prices low, providing better equipment, more frequent service, etc...). Then stick to your guns. If they insist on a commission, I would kindly tell them you are not interested and then leave. Believe me when I tell you I have no problem telling any prospect I am not interested. Don't be so desperate to get a new account that you make a commitment that you later wish you had not entered into.
The misunderstanding here is that paying commissions will get you accounts and help you keep accounts. This is pure bunk. This is a relationship business. Providing great service is what will get you accounts and when others come knocking on their doors, it is what will keep your accounts. No amount of commission will keep an account for you if your service is mediocre or poor. You must understand this or you will create more work and expense for yourself than is necessary.
Posted 17 August 2008 - 08:40 PM
Posted 18 August 2008 - 07:00 AM
Posted 19 August 2008 - 06:55 PM
I'm just starting so I have an opinion but no experience. A larger site where the machine is for employees or a service they need I would shy away from it. I would certainly discuss it with them openly and do it if they want it, but I would offer to donate a few cases of pop for their summer picnic and winter holiday parties as an alternate or keep the prices a little lower than they would otherwise need. If you don't discuss commission with a large site somebody else might.
Small locations will never get a commission from me because they are - well small. Mechanics, etc. need to have something there in their waiting rooms to make their customers comfortable.
A site such as an apartment complex or a building where the manager leases the space to others (common space) I will always offer a commission because they have no incentive to let you use their power otherwise. I will explain it may only be $20 to $30 per month and see if they care.
One question: Those with experience in this what rate do you use? 10% is common, but is that gross sales or net (after product costs) sales? I'm guessing its net, but I would like to see what you have to say.
Posted 19 August 2008 - 09:29 PM
BVI,
Have you ever taken an account that was getting a commission, but they decided to not take a commission and go with you?
I'm just getting frustrated with my area. So many prospective locations here have prices that are way too low. Some still have candy and pastry at .60 and this is a fairly large vendor with 4-5 people working for him!!!! Then I find accounts that have halfway reasonable prices that I could take over without too many price increases only to find that they are getting commissions (which is the only reason the prices are reasonable).
I only have one account right now that gets a commission (10% of gross sales).
JD
Posted 01 September 2008 - 06:53 PM
My largest account (you know which one) was getting a commission from their previous vendor, and the conversation started out that they were going to expect a commission from me. But they were having to send the commission to their main office - which is something he didn't want to do - so he decided to scrap the whole idea of receiving commission and wanted me to simply go a good job for them since the other company was so bad.
There are some good points to be made about paying commission, but the bottom line for me is that this is not the kind of business I want. If an account is stuck on the commission issue, they are interested in how much money they can get, and if another company comes along who is willing to offer them a higher percentage, then you are at risk of losing the account even if your service is good, and that's just not the kind of account I'm after, regardless of the size.
Posted 13 September 2008 - 01:13 PM