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[Ross]

I have been doing a lot of ground laying research over the past year before really jumping into it, and would honestly like to get it going at the beginning of this summer. I am only looking to do this part time, and have a few locations that would be more than accommodating to my serviceable times should I place a machine there.

However I don't mind turning an immediate profit right off the bat -- meaning I don't mind investing in a good machine that would take longer to pay itself off before I saw a decent return.

I am from the New York area, and a ton of the local vending companies I see in locations are using very old, and non-appealing machines.
- Specifically I would like to purchase glass front vending machines, and would like to see if anyone had any recommendations. Dixie Narco's BevMax 2 as the 3 is very hard to find, and pricey should a used one be available.
- Snack Machines I had taking a liking to National.

I would personally like to try to keep mostly the same type of machines, so I could keep the basic extra parts on hand that might typically go bad over time, and not have trouble in the long run.


Lastly I have not been able to find to much information on the older Coke/Pepsi Machines that you would typically aim to purchase for $250 dollars, and would really appreciate any specific model numbers/types of machines to look for, so when I see one available I can seize the opportunity as I understand even a small location grossing $50 a week could quickly turn a profit back to you when purchasing a machine at such a low cost.

[dogcow]

Lastly I have not been able to find to much information on the older Coke/Pepsi Machines that you would typically aim to purchase for $250 dollars, and would really appreciate any specific model numbers/types of machines to look for, so when I see one available I can seize the opportunity as I understand even a small location grossing $50 a week could quickly turn a profit back to you when purchasing a machine at such a low cost.

you can find many good dixie narco single-price can machines for that price range (250-350). the model numbers (276,368, 501, etc..) generally refer to the can capacity of the machine. i like 368s for small locations

before buying the machine make sure to bring some product with you to test proper operation of all the selections, and have the owner plug in the machine an hour or two before you go to see it to make sure its cooling. also you will need a roll of nickels and a couple quarters and dimes for the coin mech to test proper operation of the mech and bill validator (dont forget to bring a dollar to test that).

personally i've found the 276 to be a little too small for a location doing around $50 a week unless you want to service it every week, 368 is probably a better choice, plus it fits through standard doors.

[vend1ng]

I have been doing a lot of ground laying research over the past year before really jumping into it, and would honestly like to get it going at the beginning of this summer. I am only looking to do this part time, and have a few locations that would be more than accommodating to my serviceable times should I place a machine there.

However I don't mind turning an immediate profit right off the bat -- meaning I don't mind investing in a good machine that would take longer to pay itself off before I saw a decent return.

I am from the New York area, and a ton of the local vending companies I see in locations are using very old, and non-appealing machines.
- Specifically I would like to purchase glass front vending machines, and would like to see if anyone had any recommendations. Dixie Narco's BevMax 2 as the 3 is very hard to find, and pricey should a used one be available.
- Snack Machines I had taking a liking to National.

I would personally like to try to keep mostly the same type of machines, so I could keep the basic extra parts on hand that might typically go bad over time, and not have trouble in the long run.


Lastly I have not been able to find to much information on the older Coke/Pepsi Machines that you would typically aim to purchase for $250 dollars, and would really appreciate any specific model numbers/types of machines to look for, so when I see one available I can seize the opportunity as I understand even a small location grossing $50 a week could quickly turn a profit back to you when purchasing a machine at such a low cost.

I would have like to have invested in Microsoft when it was 2.00 a share too. I'm just joking. Having a business plan is always key to success (that way when your plan doesn't work you know it was a bad idea). Just a few things to remember 1. There is a vending location for every vending machine made BUT! not every vending machine fits every location. You talk about a Bev max then you talk about a 250.00 pop machine two totally different machines. A 250.00 pop machine will probably not be in good enough condition to secure and keep a location that does 50.00 a week. The issue here is you are looking to purchase a 250.00 machine to put in a location when another vendor has a 3,000.00 machine sitting in his garage or warehouse that he his making payments on and not generating revenue. If I was the location owner you lose. 2. You have to decide on locations based on ROI if you want to survive the long haul. If you just want to do it on the side for 2 or 3 years you will lose so just give me your money and I'll send you a christmas card every year I promise.Vending is not a get rich quick scheme it is a nice profit for risky investment with lots of hard work and lots of mistakes. 30 years ago I could have taken the same money I invested in the vending business and put it in Microsoft ............ I wouldn't be sitting here typing help answers. A Quick rule of thumb is take the # of employees times 250.00 i.e. (100* $250.00 = $25,000)and if you are willing to invest that much money on a guess thats your break even point. Then try and do it for less and make the location happy thats your profit. GOOD LUCK! Just a thought.
Vend1ng

[H4UV]

I don't know how new you are wanting, but I sell completely refurbished snack machines, the newest ones are AP 7600s and Rowe 6800s, for $1400. They come with a 60 day parts warranty, are Mars VN validated, and have new black fronts and paint jobs. I have some nice soda machines too, but they are $1100. We offer free shipping on most of these machines too. Visit www.healthy4uvending.com

[Ross]

I would have like to have invested in Microsoft when it was 2.00 a share too. I'm just joking. Having a business plan is always key to success (that way when your plan doesn't work you know it was a bad idea). Just a few things to remember 1. There is a vending location for every vending machine made BUT! not every vending machine fits every location. You talk about a Bev max then you talk about a 250.00 pop machine two totally different machines. A 250.00 pop machine will probably not be in good enough condition to secure and keep a location that does 50.00 a week. The issue here is you are looking to purchase a 250.00 machine to put in a location when another vendor has a 3,000.00 machine sitting in his garage or warehouse that he his making payments on and not generating revenue. If I was the location owner you lose. 2. You have to decide on locations based on ROI if you want to survive the long haul. If you just want to do it on the side for 2 or 3 years you will lose so just give me your money and I'll send you a christmas card every year I promise.Vending is not a get rich quick scheme it is a nice profit for risky investment with lots of hard work and lots of mistakes. 30 years ago I could have taken the same money I invested in the vending business and put it in Microsoft ............ I wouldn't be sitting here typing help answers. A Quick rule of thumb is take the # of employees times 250.00 i.e. (100* $250.00 = $25,000)and if you are willing to invest that much money on a guess thats your break even point. Then try and do it for less and make the location happy thats your profit. GOOD LUCK! Just a thought.
Vend1ng

As I stated before ... I have locations in mind, and if you read fully the larger machines such as a BevMax2 Unit would be placed in a location with enough employees/customers deemed for a machine of such size, and even replace some of the lovely 30 years in the game vendors that as you so eloquently pointed out aren't making payments on a 3,000 dollar unit, because I see POS Machines in multiple high traffic locations with plenty of failure to fill complaints due to selling out.

The unit needs to fit the locations. My interest in a 250 dollar machine is pretty simple since I have locations that could use them. They are capable of being indoors, and out. Any damage/theft sustained is extremely minimal. If I had 10 small locations with 250 dollar machines I serviced 1, or twice a week averaging and extremely low profit of $25 dollars each the machines would be paid off in 2.5 Months minus gas/time. 10 local machines x 25 a week making myself an extra 250 dollars for an added 1,000 a month is still a fine profit for someone who is already producing a fine full time salary.

Again I appreciate the help in the low end model numbers of the soda machines, but I was also specifically looking for some advice on the BevMax Soda Machines, and possibly the National Snack Machines unless someone would highly recommend else wise since I have two very specific high traffic dealerships service lanes that would like to have machines placed that are opening up which is why I specifically was interested in the appeal of a Glass Front Machine.

[H4UV]

The BevMax machines are good machines, and I could some shipped to you. I can look up prices if you are interested. If you want National machines, I can also get those for you. I can for sure provide National models 145,147,148. I can get you pricing if you are interested. The Nationals are good machines, but APs are excellent machines as well. It is just a matter of preference. APs are a little cheaper.

[RJT]

I don't know how new you are wanting, but I sell completely refurbished snack machines, the newest ones are AP 7600s and Rowe 6800s, for $1400. They come with a 60 day parts warranty, are Mars VN validated, and have new black fronts and paint jobs. I have some nice soda machines too, but they are $1100. We offer free shipping on most of these machines too. Visit www.healthy4uvending.com

@ H4UV

Could you offer some "advice" to people every once in a while instead of spamming every thread with a sales pitch? I realize this forum is a good source to make a sale of your products and service because I have sold my services utilizing this forum. However, these threads are for helping people and not for selling something with every post you make.

Give people good solid advice and as time goes people will look to you for your products if they feel like you are knowledgeable and offer good products and services. Many people that post here offer something but 98% offer some help and advice more so than a sales pitch.

@ Ross

This thread might help you.

http://www.vendingch...?showtopic=2073


The following machine brands are trusted among the bigger vending companies.

Crane National
AP
USI
Rowe
Poly Vend
GPL
AMS
Dixie Narco
Royal
Vendo

I would saty away from Planet Antares, Sega, or any that is not listed above.

Keep in mind some of these companies are out of business such as Poly Vend, Rowe, but their are plenty of machines around. Parts are starting to get tricky on some models and brands as they have discontinued machines and parts.

When you find machines to buy call around to no less than 5 suppliers of NEW parts and ask if parts are avaiable for the machine you are considering. Ask if they repair the control boards, etc. Calling used parts folks is fine but it may be a case of once those parts dry up you may have a hard time.

I have some super nice Poly Vend cold food machines that are a bear to get parts for at times.


I would not invest in BevMax glass fronts unless it was a VERY high profile account with HIGH volume. Stick with used machines like the Dixie Narco 501e or even their HV model.Paying more than $1200 tops for a drink is not necessary unless the account demands new equipment and they are worthy of such a capital expense. You also had better have a strong contract with them also to protect your investment.



Good luck and let us know what you come up with.