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Member Since 16 Aug 2010
Offline Last Active Aug 23 2010 08:10 PM
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In Topic: Buying aAn Existing Vending Business - Follow Up

20 August 2010 - 01:03 PM

I recommend you not buy the route.Reason is the average per machine is too low, meaning that this person has 1 or 2 good stops, and the rest are worthless.People get caught up in yearly gross amounts collection, so when they see a $50,000 to $100,000 a year figure, they get sucked into the fact that they will be collecting this amount, this is not so.If you have to work $31 avg per machine a week, your profit after expenses amount to 7% per machine,,so you will clear $2.17 per machine.Now I'm sure I'm going to get called out on this, so what I would like for you to consider is this.When you collect $31 for each machines, your gross profit should be about $16.10, thats your gross profit( hopefully).ok, you have your gross profit, now lets find your net profit, cause thats the figure that counts.The expenses: Gas, Insurance, maint on machines and truck, taxes,paycheck,truck note,business phone,rent,utilites,workmens comp,health insurance, etc. As you can see, most folks leave out all of these things when considering purchasing a vending Company.

In Topic: Buying An Existing Vending Business

19 August 2010 - 08:28 PM

This business is located in a town with a population of 7,000 with just a few businesses/plants, etc. with more than 30 employees so I think reaching weekly gross revenue per machine of $60-$75 is probably unrealistic. One of these machines is in building where I work and we have noticed for months that it has not stayed stocked, which has what got me interested in inquiring about a possible sale. Business was bought four years ago with idea that it would be sole income for family. It was not so the husband took job and wife has worked the business. I do not think it has been worked like it could be. This would be a second income for my family with my wife working the business. She has marketing degree with experience running routes for Pepsi and brother 25 years with Coke running routes. No doubts that we could improve the business. We're just trying to figure out how much we can profit out of it monthly. Still in the process of gathering informatin such as talking to current customers and to Coke and Pepsi contacts about their relationship with this business.

Your thoughts and questions are appreciated.

Thanks

In Topic: Buying An Existing Vending Business

18 August 2010 - 06:25 AM

Based on those numbers you are only looking at a $31.00 a week gross revenue per machine, that is not good.

How are you determining the value of the assets? Right going off of what seller has provided and stated that they used what they bought the machines for four years ago in addition to asking prices off internet sites-not sure which ones.

Are you getting 25 total machines that you will own? Yes

Do you have a complete asset list with make and model of each machine? No. What other than make and model can you get from a machine, i.e. year?

Age of equipment? See above.

What is the pricing of product like? Average price seems to be around 1.00.

How is the gross revenue being proved? I have three years T/R and three and a half years of bank statements. Sales per T/R had reached $122 one year. They have lost some accounts due to businesses closing and 2-3 to competition.

Deposits?

Receipts of purchased products for the past three years? Is this just to determine product costs??


Even being able to answer all the questions I asked I would pass on the deal myself. The revenue is just not high enough and not enough assets in the deal. With 50 machines I would want to see closer to 160k plus in gross revenue.

This business is located in a town with a population of 7,000 with just a few businesses/plants, etc. with more than 30 employees so I think reaching weekly gross revenue per machine of $60-$75 is probably unrealistic. One of these machines is in building where I work and we have noticed for months that it has not stayed stocked, which has what got me interested in inquiring about a possible sale. Business was bought four years ago with idea that it would be sole income for family. It was not so the husband took job and wife has worked the business. I do not think it has been worked like it could be. This would be a second income for my family with my wife working the business. She has marketing degree with experience running routes for Pepsi and brother 25 years with Coke running routes. No doubts that we could improve the business. We're just trying to figure out how much we can profit out of it monthly. Still in the process of gathering informatin such as talking to current customers and to Coke and Pepsi contacts about their relationship with this business.

Your thoughts and questions are appreciated.

Thanks